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Church of Scientology International's Legal Department. And
off and on since then Ive held pretty much the same
position, except for a few times where I was off on
different projects or whatever, but Ive been pretty much in
the same position since.

Q.
Okay. Your educational background?
A.
Four years of college, didnt graduate.
Q.
Okay. Your legal background, is that any formal
training in legal or is this mostly self-taught?

A.
Well, what I picked up working as a paralegal in
the Church, different seminars I was sent to. Evidence,
civil procedure, how to do legal research, stuff like that.
So Im pretty well trained as a litigation paralegal and not
an attorney.

Q.
All right. So what is your -- what is your
position right now with the Church?

A.
Legal Legal Affairs Director for CSI.
Q.
CSI?
A.
Yeah. Church of Scientology International, Im
sorry. . .

Q.
All right. And who would be your immediate
supervisor?
A.
Kurt Wyland.
Q. And thats in L.A.?
A.
Yes.

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