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this area.
 
THE COURT: I am reluctant to cloak him
with the mantle of being an expert based on what I have
heard.
 
MR. DENIS DE VLAMING: That’s what I
understand.
 
THE COURT: So I am going to be real
ginger in this area. If you would like to continue to
question him I will reserve ruling on that until I have
heard everything that you would like him to say. Then I
will go back and address the notion of whether he is an
expert or not.
 
MS. RIVELLINI:
Okay, Judge, and keeping
in mind that it is hard to be an expert that you just do
everyday. I know Mr. de
Vlaming himself has been
declared an expert in the practice of defense law, and it
is along the same lines that we are asking that he be
declared an expert. He was entrenched in the study of
it. He actually did study and rely on treatises, and for
that purpose we are asking that he be declared an expert.
 
MR. TYSON:
May I address that?
THE COURT: Yes, go ahead.
 
MR. TYSON:
Mr. de Vlaming is here
everyday. Mr. de Vlaming has been continually involved
in the practice of the law. You have eight years on the

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