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Q For example, when someone was going to arrive
in an airport?

Q You mentioned that you sometimes hire outside
personnel, what kind of people would you hire?

A The actual hiring of private investigators was
done by the senior management of the Office of Special
Affairs in conjunction with the attorneys at the church.

Q Were you actually taught how to use them as an
in-between from Scientology?

A Well, the way that it works is this, the
private investigator should, in essence, work for an
attorney, however, within the Scientology organization
that was not the way it was done. They were paid by the
attorneys but the actual people running the operations
and giving the marching orders to the investigators were
the people in the Office of Special Affairs. Some of the
training I received when I went to Los Angeles was on how
to run a PI, or private investigator. We were actually
given a check sheet, if you will, of the project that we
were going to do. It delineates on there exactly which
things we want the private investigator to do. The
private investigator is given a description of what his
targets are and he reports back to me, and I would write
reports, send them up to senior management, and there