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Policy” and I didn’t read it. We are just talking about
specifically the words punishment and points. I thought
that was one of the things that could get into.

MR. TYSON: Judge, there is a limit to it.
You said that it was very limited. I sat there, let them
put it all out there according to your ruling. I am
suggesting that they should be done by now.

agree with Mr. Tyson. You are well into this, and well
beyond, frankly, what I envisioned.

MS. RIVELLINI: Judge, that is where I
don’t understand where you are drawing the line, and why
I tried to clarify. If you are saying the line is drawn
then I will move on.

THE COURT: I am saying that you are close
to the line. And you need to move through this and get
to something that’s more directly relevant.

MS. RIVELLINI: Okay. May I approach the
witness, Judge?

THE COURT: Yes.

BY MS. RIVELLINI:

Q Mr. Oliver, you testified that this is a policy
that you practiced while you were in OSA organization?

Q And you have also said that you recognized a