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got into because you did.

that we could go towards Mr. Howd’s reasons to be
completely honest in his testimony. I was going to ask
him if he signed a non-disclosure form when he was a
member of the Office of Special Affairs.

MR. TYSON: Judge, the reason why I
crossed examined him is because they brought all that up.
My initial position was that they were going to put the
religion on trial, and it’s relevant, and I think we are
way past that now.

THE COURT: I agree with everything you
said, but what Ms. Rivellini said that she wants to do is
get testimony and demonstrate a basis as to why Mr.
Howd’s testimony would be less than truthful. I cannot
prohibit her from doing that.

MR. TYSON: I don’t think it is allowable
to have one witness to testify on another witness’
truthfulness. I think that is exactly what she is going.

THE COURT: I don’t think she is going to
do that.

MS. RIVELLINI: No.

THE COURT: I think she is going to

demonstrate that there may be policies that would
motivate him to do that, and I do not believe that she