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it was the second window.
 
Q Are we talking about five feet, ten feet?
 
A Twelve feet.
 
Q All right, a little further than this. It was
only you and him around that corner at that time, wasn’t
it?
 
A That’s right.
 
Q What type of message during your protest were
you sending out when you walked around that corner
holding that protest sign with Mr. Howd, and reached for
that strap, what kind of message were you sending out in
your protest, your lawful protest?
 
A For Mr. Howd to get that camera out of my face.
 
Q And you had to do it where no one else would
see you, didn’t you?
 
A The camera, I am holding the sign like this,
the strap is right on my thumb almost. I catch it with
my thumb there. I don’t even grab it. It doesn’t pull
his camera down, there’s now a single downward thing in
his camera. I am not pulling it, it is in my thumb.
Then I turn around and leave.
 
Q Is it fair to say that you didn’t have to round
the corner of the building to do that?
 
A At that particular moment I was going to leave.
 
Q And leave Stacy behind?

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