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THE COURT: Okay.

BY MS. RIVELLINI:

Q While you were in Scientology did you actually
have to take some courses?

A Yes. The purpose of the indoctrination of
Scientology is all based on the person taking certain
courses and acquiring information that way. It is not a
lecture type of indoctrination.

Q Do you actually receive certificates for these
courses?

A Yes, for every course that you complete you
receive a certificate.

Q About how many courses would you say that you
have completed?

A Over the course of seven years in Scientology
it is probably over a dozen courses I did.

Q Do you have a sample of some of these
certificates here, and are these copies of them?

A Yes, these are photocopies of the originals
that I do still have in my possession.

Q Okay. Does it take quite a bit of studying to
obtain these certificates?

A Yes, some of these courses, depending on
whether you are full—time or whether you have a job, and
go there on a part—time basis, do take —— some courses