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the only way I was going to move up or stay in was to
sign this form, because that was the particular
department that I was in at the time.

Q And what were you essentially promising not to
disclose?

A Any of the information about any of the inner-
workings of Scientology in the area that I was in.

Q Now, if you were still a member of OSA having
signed that form would you be able to testify to the
things that you are telling us today?

A Absolutely no.

Q What if you were under oath in a courtroom?

A Well, that again is up to the individual.

Q What would the church tell you to do?

A Whatever they wanted me to do. If they wanted
me to say something then that is what I would have to
say.

Q So it wouldn’t be up to you as to what you
disclose?

A No, because I would have to put the
organization first.

Q Does that disclosure form set out punishments
if you do disclose what goes on in OSA?

A Yes, breaches of a million dollars, or more.

Q Would there also be ramifications within the