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that they don’t go to the extreme level that Scientology
does. How extreme does the military go, are you even
able to testify to that?
 
A How the military investigates?
 
Q
Yes.
A No, I have never been in the military.
 
Q Okay, so it is difficult for you to make that
comparison. You said that you don’t know anybody that
goes to the level that Scientologists do. You really
don’t know if that is true or not?
 
A Not businesses, sir. You asked me about
business.
 
Q Oh, really, is that a fact? What business
experience do you have on their investigations?
 
A On Scientology investigations?
 
Q Businesses investigating other businesses,
corporate spying, what do you know about that?
 
A I have read some articles on it.
 

Q Do you consider yourself an expert on that?

 
A No, not at all.
 
Q So obviously you can’t testify on what exactly
they do, can you?
 
A No, not what a corporation does. No, I have
never done that type of work.
 
Q If I understand your testimony you said that

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