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or a threat. Would it be fair to say that U.S. military
does that too, don’t they?

A From what I know, yes.

Q And actually companies —— you are a business
man, right?

A Yes, sir.

Q Do you compete with other companies?

A Yes, well, I am in a similar business -- my
field is so broad there is not that kind of competition
you see between AT&T and Sprint. It’s not like that.

Q The bottom line though, you need to keep ahead
of the competition to make a profit, don’t you?

Q So you have got to keep an eye on what the
competition is doing, don’t you?

Q So it is not unusual to check out what anybody
else is doing, investigate what they are up to, is it?

A Not to the extreme level that I carried out
when I was in Scientology though. But, yeah.

Q But that begs the question, what type of
military or company experience do you have on how they
conduct their investigations?

A On how-
Q You said not the to the extreme level, you know