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because I had made secret plans to leave the
organization, when in fact, there was never a secret plan
to made. I was very much in the open, and in fact, they
had acknowledged that I was leaving already. So it
surprised me that they would expel me for something that
I didn’t commit.

However, since I had not committed any
infraction within the organization they needed something
to expel me for, and they chose to say that I was leaving
in secret, when, in fact, I wasn’t.

Q Sounds like someone trying to get out of the
U.S. military?

A Something like that.

Q You say that you are not personally involved in
litigation. Are you a witness at all in the Lisa
McPherson case?

A I am a trial consultant in the Lisa McPherson
case.

Q Which side are you with?

A Lisa McPherson’s.

Q Okay. So you are against the Scientologists?

A Yes, sir.

Q Now you said that involvement with Scientology,
if I got this right, were for you to carry on
investigations on anybody that is identified as an enemy